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<v Adam Estock>Welcome to Sink Alike, a movie review and discussion podcast where opinions differ, but we all love to sink into our favorite movies and fandoms.

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<v Adam Estock>I'm your host, Adam Estock, and I'm joined by the harbinger of boom himself, William Gill.

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<v Adam Estock>William, how are you doing today?

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<v William Gill>Wait, I thought that was your title.

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<v Adam Estock>No, no. Oh, you want it to be my title?

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<v Adam Estock>I can be the harbinger of boom.

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<v Adam Estock>You will be Inspector Detector.

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<v William Gill>Inspector Detector, William Charles Gill.

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<v William Gill>That's me. Welcome. I mean, hello everyone.

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<v William Gill>It's good to be here.

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<v Adam Estock>And how are you doing today, William?

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<v William Gill>I'm actually doing really good.

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<v William Gill>I woke up at a solid 9.30, which is a lot better than usual because I have the morning shift now and I felt on top of clouds.

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<v Adam Estock>Well, I'm glad. Yeah.

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<v Adam Estock>Well, how about you ask me how I'm doing today?

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<v William Gill>Okay, I can do that.

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<v William Gill>Adam, how are you doing today?

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<v Adam Estock>I'm doing great. I definitely woke up in the morning and I didn't know what time it was in the day.

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<v Adam Estock>I was a little bit disoriented at first.

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<v Adam Estock>I don't know why it's a Saturday when we're recording this, but I feel great now and I'm excited to record our first episode of the podcast.

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<v Adam Estock>Yeah, no, but like the third time as well.

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<v Adam Estock>Oh yes, of course.

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<v Adam Estock>Still the first episode though.

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<v Adam Estock>Yes, we're not very good at recording podcasts yet.

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<v Adam Estock>So this is actually the third take, the third try.

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<v Adam Estock>We've tried to set this up with some other people and they couldn't make it today.

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<v Adam Estock>And we've tried to record a couple of different times, but it didn't feel completely natural and we went too long the second time.

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<v Adam Estock>So we're going to try to keep it to a brief 30 to 40 minute episode this time anyone who's watching or listening you can of course see the time code as you click on the

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<v William Gill>episode we have to disclaim that

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<v Adam Estock>um i guess you'll you'll see how accurate we are to our um promise of uh 30 to 40 minute episode well we

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<v William Gill>should be pretty close because we're gonna get kicked out in about 40 minutes of the most so

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<v Adam Estock>well today we're going to talk about speed racer from 2008 so

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<v William Gill>excited i love this movie and this is this whole thing is completely my idea because I don't think you'd ever heard of Speed Racer.

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<v William Gill>Had you before I mentioned it?

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<v Adam Estock>I think I'd heard of Speed Racer a couple of times, but I didn't know what it was about.

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<v Adam Estock>I thought, I think I was confusing it with a different racing movie.

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<v Adam Estock>I didn't remember who it was, but like, I think there was a different racing movie that I was like, I thought that was Speed Racer, but I don't remember what it was.

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<v William Gill>To be fair, it is kind of a generic name, Speed Racer.

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<v William Gill>It could be interpreted to a lot of different movies.

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<v William Gill>But no, this movie is very iconic.

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<v William Gill>I hold it very close to my heart.

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<v William Gill>um but before we get into that i guess because this is the first episode we also wanted to do a little bit of a kind of introduction to who we are so that you can get to know us

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<v William Gill>better and the context of a movie because that's what we're going to be discussing yeah yeah

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<v Adam Estock>so i will do a brief introduction of ourselves and then we thought we could do two cold takes and a hot take which is uh the cold takes which is a highly movie rated a highly rated movie there

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<v Adam Estock>you go that you like, a lowly rated movie that you dislike.

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<v Adam Estock>And then the hot take is a movie that you see a highly rated or lowly rated that you disagree with a public sentiment on.

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<v Adam Estock>I like that. So I can start.

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<v Adam Estock>I am Adam Estock.

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<v Adam Estock>I grew up in Washington.

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<v Adam Estock>And William and I, we both were raised and served to the same mission together in Japan.

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<v Adam Estock>But then we came back and now we're college students.

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<v Adam Estock>And we both love movies.

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<v Adam Estock>We both love TV.

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<v Adam Estock>and we thought this would be a fun thing just get our opinions out there you know yeah no

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<v William Gill>I mean so we both met in Japan in the same apartment and we just had a lot of fun talking about the most random crap poop shack the poop shack as we call it or the Shibuya shack is

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<v William Gill>it's officially known also unofficially by us we've

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<v Adam Estock>been torn down since no

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<v William Gill>it's still there is what's on oh really apparently they still own actually the mission still owns it they just don't do anything with it sadly but um yeah no we decided hey this is pretty fun people always liked

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<v William Gill>you know we always liked discussing these things and so we're going to get started with well

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<v Adam Estock>my my hot my two cold takes yeah go for it a highly rated movie that i like i'll put in another racing movie i really like ford versus ferrari i know you haven't seen it but i a lot

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<v Adam Estock>of maybe listeners have seen it it is a racing movie with i believe it's matt damon and christian bale and it's based on a true story of like a i think it's a grand prix race or india 500

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<v Adam Estock>or something it's like the ford versus ferrari story and it's this crazy underdog story and it's it's really good i love it a movie that i dislike i guess we might talk about it in a future episode but

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<v Adam Estock>one of my least favorite movies and i know this might be a hot take maybe it's not the box trolls the box trolls uh we have talked about this earlier this is a like animation movie and i don't

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<v Adam Estock>want to poo poo on like animation because there are a lot of there are a lot of bad movies made cheaply by big companies that feel very inauthentic the buckstrolls feels like an authentic vision but it's not the

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<v Adam Estock>authentic it's it was just a bad vision it just is completely not for me and okay it's it's hard to be like oh you people you stop motion animators who took so much effort and time into your movie

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<v Adam Estock>i don't like it just it's just gross to me i just shouldn't like the plot and the characters and the animation creeped me out when i was a kid and so it wasn't for me

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<v William Gill>that's usually that's like a that's unacceptable to me is when the animation or whatever about it turns it off like as a kid those things those movies always creep me out until you grow up and then you realize

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<v William Gill>a good movie is like monster house is one of them oh

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<v Adam Estock>yeah i love monster house i'm gonna be starting on that a movie that i disagree with the public take my hot take i really enjoy cars three okay i think a lot most people love Cars and I think

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<v Adam Estock>it's pretty divided but a lot of people enjoy Cars 2 even if they don't think it's the best movie ever I genuinely enjoy Cars 3 I think it's a really good sequel to Cars 1 I think that

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<v Adam Estock>I think it's a really good arc for Lightning McQueen character and I love what they did with Doc Hudson and they moved the characters forward and maybe it's not the best sequel that we could have gotten but I

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<v Adam Estock>think it's genuinely a good movie.

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<v William Gill>Interesting. Okay, well, I don't have any strong opinions on it, so I'll let you...

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<v William Gill>I'll let you like Cars 3.

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<v William Gill>I won't shoot you down there.

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<v William Gill>Okay. Well, I'm going to introduce myself.

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<v William Gill>I'm William Gill. I'm from the UK.

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<v William Gill>I was raised in North Wales in this little loony town.

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<v William Gill>And now I'm living here in the States.

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<v William Gill>We've already explained how we met each other.

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<v William Gill>I guess just to jump into it, my cold takes are not super interesting.

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<v William Gill>Frozen 2. that was a movie that I was not looking forward to I didn't anticipate it very much and when it came out I watched it and I kind of forgot about it the next day it was just

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<v William Gill>kind of a nothing movie to me and I'm not super excited that Frozen 3 is coming out but also they could turn into something good so we'll see what happens there Toy Story 1,

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<v William Gill>fantastic movie I love Toy Story 1 and I feel like most people would agree with that

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<v Adam Estock>I think it has that 100% on Rotten Tomatoes which just means doesn't mean it's everyone thinks it's 100 but 100 of people think it's above a 50 percent yeah is that what rotten tomatoes means yeah it's it's

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<v Adam Estock>how it's not the it's not what people think it's percentage wise it's how what percentage of people think this is a good movie or a bad movie i did not fun fact yeah wow

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<v William Gill>okay well well i don't i don't trust rotten tomatoes because of its score for speed racer but in any case my hot take my hot take and this is like the the one i always go to was just

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<v William Gill>that interstellar for me was a very forgettable movie

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<v Adam Estock>hot tickler okay it was yes william and i disagree on this uh if anyone just heard his opinion and was like how dare you i feel the same way i love interstellar i i will defend christopher nolan until

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<v Adam Estock>he makes a bad movie and i don't anticipate that happening in the next 50 years

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<v William Gill>uh okay i we're gonna have to move on because I will rant about it.

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<v William Gill>Of course, of course.

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<v Adam Estock>But that's my all take.

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<v Adam Estock>So I guess if you think the Interstellar is a good movie, then stick around for my opinions.

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<v Adam Estock>And if you think it's a bad movie, then stick around for William's opinions.

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<v Adam Estock>Thumbs up this episode.

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<v William Gill>You know, like and share. Subscribe.

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<v Adam Estock>Okay, well, let's get into...

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<v Adam Estock>Speed Racer. Speed Racer.

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<v Adam Estock>We're going to start with a little bit of spoiler-free reviews.

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<v Adam Estock>Spoiler-free, yeah. Of course, it's a movie from 2008.

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<v Adam Estock>So if you haven't seen it, it's kind of on you.

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<v Adam Estock>like it's it's been a while but we'll spoiler free we'll just talk about the plot very surface level and we'll kind of let you figure out your own opinions if after that we're going to talk about spoilers a

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<v Adam Estock>little bit if you want to stick around for that part of the episode you're like it came on in 2008 i had my chance i don't disclaimers i've seen

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<v William Gill>it i don't think this is a sort of movie where if you understand the plot it will in any case decrease the value of watching the movie like even if you already knew the entire movie going into it

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<v William Gill>i feel like you'd you'd

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<v Adam Estock>really and that's essentially what you gave me um for for context speed racer is william gill's favorite movie would you say that it's at least one of your

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<v William Gill>favorites yeah i don't have a one favorite movie it's on my list of like five seven favorite movies yeah

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<v Adam Estock>yeah and so he was like you need to see speed racer i'd never heard of it and so he described to me the plot of speed racer um and i was like okay that sounds interesting enough and i

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<v Adam Estock>watched it when uh i watched it like a month or two ago and i thought it was all right i thought it was pretty good but not amazing and then i thought about it some more and i talked

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<v Adam Estock>to william some more and then i watched it with william about a week ago we watched it together in preparation for this podcast we can have some fresh and original fresh and like new perspectives new perspectives and it

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<v Adam Estock>was a lot better than i gave it credit for i think the the visuals and the effects were very jarring for me as a start they're very over the top i would say they're very like so speed racers

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<v Adam Estock>based on an anime and

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<v Adam Estock>the the effects reflect that if i can say that if you've seen like i don't know the live action one piece like it's kind of a little bit goofy a little bit corny but in that universe when you're

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<v Adam Estock>ready for it fits

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<v William Gill>yeah i was gonna say like the wachowski brothers did a fantastic job of catch capturing just the magic of anime, the whimsical nature of it in a live action movie,

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<v William Gill>which I feel like is a very difficult thing to do, period.

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<v William Gill>But they did it in 2008.

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<v Adam Estock>This movie is directed by the Wachowskis.

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<v Adam Estock>And they also made The Matrix, The Matrix 2, a couple other movies.

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<v Adam Estock>I've only seen Speed Racer.

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<v Adam Estock>And I think it's a pretty good entry in their lineup.

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<v Adam Estock>I'm very glad for that.

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<v Adam Estock>But what do you think about Speed Racer?

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<v Adam Estock>Top level thoughts.

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<v William Gill>top level thoughts i love it because of the visuals i love it because of the over-the-top story and the execution on it and its creativity the plot itself isn't anything that i'm like i would you know

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<v William Gill>i wouldn't rave for this whole podcast about the plot the majority of it will probably be talking about other aspects of the movie that i like but what also turns it from a like a good movie to a

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<v William Gill>great movie is the fact that i think it does still have a very good plot like i enjoy the moral that it teaches and i think it does have a moral but it's just like coated in so many

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<v William Gill>layers of just delicious enjoyment oh it's so fun this movie is just really fun to watch yes

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<v Adam Estock>of course um top level plot why don't you give that okay so the plot

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<v William Gill>so basically it's based off to pitch it like actually I wrote this down Netflix's

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<v Adam Estock>speed racer did Netflix make no they should

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<v William Gill>not they're not involved we had to rent it it's not on any streaming service it's not

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<v Adam Estock>not anything I watched it the first time I watched it was for free it showed up on youtube for free for just a tiny bit and i watched it and it was great but then we watched it on

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<v Adam Estock>not youtube and i discovered that youtube does make the visuals look worse yeah

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<v William Gill>youtube's compression is actually terrible in any case so this is my 10 second kind of plot line so the famous racer family's middle son speed yes his name is speed racer first name speed last name racer and the

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<v William Gill>racer family are also in the racing business of course he wants to be the greatest racer of all time and he's supported by his family but big corporate baddies and corruption get in the way of his innocent talent yeah

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<v Adam Estock>that oh that's very good did you did you get that off of google no i wrote that oh wow that was all stretched off my head corporate baddies yeah i didn't interesting mr oylton i didn't i didn't know

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<v Adam Estock>i didn't know that's how you felt about him he's

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<v William Gill>a baddie he's a baddie for sure sorry that's a british term you wouldn't get it

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<v Adam Estock>oh really in america it means something a little bit you know what it means in america okay great that's amazing uh

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<v William Gill>but it's still in my mind batty just means bad guy

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<v Adam Estock>okay that's awesome

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<v William Gill>okay so that's that's like the 10 second full line but basically so speed racer his older brother rex racer and

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<v Adam Estock>if you're thinking these names sound a little bit corny the harbinger of boom inspector detector those are also names from a speed racer his father what's his name pops his name is his mom Mom Racer.

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<v William Gill>Other characters call her Mom Racer.

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<v William Gill>So that I can only assume it's her first name.

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<v Adam Estock>His younger brother is Spritell?

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<v Adam Estock>Spritell Racer. And then Chimp Chimp.

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<v William Gill>Chimp Chimp is a monkey.

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<v William Gill>So the racer family goes like this.

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<v William Gill>You have Pops and Mom.

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<v William Gill>Then you have Rex Racer, the oldest brother.

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<v William Gill>Speed Racer the middle.

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<v William Gill>Spritell. It's completely random.

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<v William Gill>Then you have Chimp Chimp who is Spritell's kind of like brother but he's actually a monkey.

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<v William Gill>A chimpanzee or something.

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<v Adam Estock>Because this was based off of an animation.

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<v William Gill>Because it's based off an anime.

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<v William Gill>And they also have two other characters that are just completely always present with the family.

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<v William Gill>Do you want to introduce those two?

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<v Adam Estock>Yes, those two are, is it Sparky?

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<v William Gill>Yeah, Sparky is the mechanic.

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<v Adam Estock>Yes, and oh, Trix.

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<v Adam Estock>Trixie, of course. Trixie is Speed Racer's girlfriend, and she, I guess she became his girlfriend as a kid.

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<v Adam Estock>Speed Racer, it shows a lot of his flashbacks throughout the movie, and he's just like some doofus kid who's always thinking about racing, nothing but racing, 100% of the time.

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<v Adam Estock>He's in class, and the teacher's like, oh what's two plus two he's like racing something like that

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<v William Gill>he's like using his all the paper the pages in his notebook to draw out like a race oh yeah animation

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<v Adam Estock>but trixie is infatuated with him and they become like they start dating and so trixie is his girlfriend and she later becomes part of his pit crew but

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<v William Gill>yeah she has the most egregious haircut as well it's actually ridiculous and i was watching it the girl was watching this she was like what is that is i never realized because I just,

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<v William Gill>I thought she was hot

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<v Adam Estock>when I was little.

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<v Adam Estock>As a kid, you're like, oh yeah.

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<v William Gill>I was like, oh, she's beautiful.

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<v William Gill>But I'm like, actually, if my girlfriend had hair like that, I would not allow that.

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<v Adam Estock>Well, thank goodness you don't have a girlfriend.

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<v Adam Estock>Thank you for that, Adam.

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<v Adam Estock>You've been blessed by being single.

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<v Adam Estock>I know, I've been freed.

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<v Adam Estock>You now have more time to do some racing on your own.

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<v Adam Estock>What? Well, you can race now.

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<v Adam Estock>I don't have a car.

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<v Adam Estock>Oh, you don't have a car.

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<v Adam Estock>Well, you can race in your little,

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<v Adam Estock>so context for listeners.

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<v Adam Estock>i'm crippled william gill is crippled not well i mean not permanently you broke your leg i

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<v William Gill>yeah i broke my leg the first day and so

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<v Adam Estock>you have this little boot scooter sort of thing i have three

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<v William Gill>modes of mobility i have a scooter a peg leg and crutches

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<v Adam Estock>and if he's going down a hill that scooter goes crazy it's

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<v William Gill>actually really fast it's also terrifying because the whole thing does rattle and shake oh and randomly veers to the left or the right there is no control

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<v Adam Estock>over it yeah it's uh it's pretty intense

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<v William Gill>sorry okay let's get back on on the actual on track here of course So his older brother, so Speed is the main character.

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<v William Gill>His older brother, when Speed was young, was one of the best racers.

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<v William Gill>And he unfortunately strays from his family's advice and joins a rally, which are in this world really dangerous.

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<v William Gill>And so his dad kind of disowns him.

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<v Adam Estock>The clean-cut cross-country race.

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<v Adam Estock>No, the clean-cut road races, the Grand Prix.

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<v Adam Estock>the grand prix all those races are kind of the i guess the kosher races they're the everyone participates in them and it's like it's it's rough but it's fine and then there's like the cross-country races and the

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<v Adam Estock>rally races which are cheap yeah literally

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<v William Gill>like they'll throw beehives at each other they're well okay also more context for this racing this is not like normal racing whatsoever it's actually like fever dream yeah

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<v Adam Estock>imagine it's it's very it's more similar to mario cart than oh that's good any other rate like everyone's slamming into each other and they have all these gadgets and gizmos on their car that cars can jump they can

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<v Adam Estock>oh yeah they have springs on the bottom of the cars so they can launch themselves upwards into the air they have uh catapults with beehives in them beehives bricks spikes and whatever whatever anything you can imagine oil that

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<v William Gill>can throw fish at people

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<v Adam Estock>yes anything you can imagine that could be attached onto a go-kart that wouldn't make sense but would be really cool to like a seven-year-old that's in this movie

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<v William Gill>and they'll actually like drive up walls that have spikes like coming out of the wall oh yes and again so these rallies are freaking insane and so rex he's like i wants to go on the rally race and

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<v William Gill>his family disowns him and he ends up unfortunately crashing and his car is in an absolute inferno and his body can't be found yes

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<v Adam Estock>and it is very tragic he must be dead everyone's like oh no rex racer has died and so speed racer he has to grow up and he wants to race because he loves his brother and he loves racing

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<v Adam Estock>ever since he's little and so he has to grow up and he wants to race but he also doesn't want to put rex racer in his shadow

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<v William Gill>he doesn't want to diminish his brother's legacy and

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<v Adam Estock>at the same time his brother um he got into a lot of trouble because

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<v Adam Estock>one thing about how he got into rally racing is he started signing on with these bigger companies these people that were forcing him to be more more aggressive with his racing and more um wild and so his family

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<v Adam Estock>is like speed racer says later in the movie like uh racing is like a religion and big companies are like the devil

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<v William Gill>he does say that's one of my favorite bars especially who he says it too we'll introduce mr rollton in a minute but yeah rex racer dies speed racer grows up and his legacy is to like become the greatest

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<v William Gill>racer but then i love the intro scene to the movie um

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<v William Gill>because it it shows how speed like he wants to race so bad and he's kind of doing the same racetrack that his brother was famous for and he had the world record for and he's about to beat the

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<v William Gill>record you see all the commentators and everyone watching and this is a huge event every country is tuned in online and they're like oh crazy he's gonna he's gonna win he's gonna be his brother's record and he can

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<v William Gill>see rex's ghost it's kind of like mario kart when you're racing you see the yeah racing with him and he's like just in front of him he's going to beat the record and then last second he pulls off

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<v William Gill>the accelerator and lets his brother zoom past so that he doesn't

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<v William Gill>beat his record and everyone just forgets about right yeah

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<v Adam Estock>and that's that's the part that we disagree on the movie personally i think you should have just no i i it's i mean it's respectful to let rex keep the record but it's also respectful to be like yeah

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<v Adam Estock>i'm your younger brother like i'm gonna beat the record if you're good if you can

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<v William Gill>be alive you're not

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<v Adam Estock>it worked better in the cars with lightning mcqueen stopped before the finish line like that was really good this one was like okay like you can you didn't you're not going to take away from your brother's legacy by

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<v Adam Estock>beating him in a race because then your fame will start putting more eyes on his fame i just

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<v William Gill>in my opinion i don't think that's true okay let's talk about mr royalson so the the main villain in this movie i guess twist

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<v Adam Estock>villain not really a twist villain let's move into the spoiler let's move into the spoilers for now.

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<v Adam Estock>Yeah. Okay. Let's just do it.

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<v Adam Estock>From now on, we're going to talk spoilers in the movie.

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<v Adam Estock>It came out in 2008.

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<v Adam Estock>Also, if you're watching this episode, you clicked on an episode called Speed Racer, you've probably seen the movie.

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<v Adam Estock>But if you haven't,

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<v Adam Estock>then hopefully we can convince you to see the movie through these spoilers.

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<v William Gill>And all of the spoilers we talk about as well are extremely foreshadowed and obvious.

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<v William Gill>I'm not going to lie.

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<v Adam Estock>Oh, yes. This plot is...

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<v Adam Estock>You figure it out immediately.

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<v Adam Estock>It's a kid's movie.

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<v Adam Estock>So everything is very foreshadowed you'll know so

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<v William Gill>speed racer and his family um after this this race the introduction they get a knock on the door one day actually that's not even it they're having dinner breakfast they're having pancakes and then all of a sudden all

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<v William Gill>of a sudden that's very important an earthquake occurs but

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<v Adam Estock>it's not an earthquake it is a jet landing in their yard and mr royleton a basically he's this very british villain sort of stereotype big business racer guy who's like i want to put you on my team and

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<v Adam Estock>i want you to race for me speed racer and then he eats the family's pancakes and raves about how good they are and he gave speed racer and the family a tour of um a tour of royalton streets

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<v Adam Estock>royalton motors royalton industries whatever it's called

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<v William Gill>yeah and he says okay speed i'm going to fund you because i love you i love what you do and your family like you guys are just doing this on your own so i'm going to give you all

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<v William Gill>the money you want no strings attached

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<v Adam Estock>yeah and he's like do you take the deal we were just like uh can i think about it and he's like maybe maybe wait till tomorrow to think about it well no it's funny

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<v William Gill>because mr roland's like speed this isn't the sort of deal we i just give left right you know nilly um this is the sort of deal you either say yes now walk away and speed goes well in that

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<v William Gill>case mr roilton i'm afraid i'm gonna have to say wait let's sleep on it it's like all right mr roilton he just he

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<v Adam Estock>trying to do any method he can get to get speed racer to sign

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<v William Gill>this deal no strings attached but

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<v Adam Estock>eventually speed racer goes back and says sorry like my family has our own little racing little race your motors sort of thing and then mr roilton is like you idiot like i'm the villain

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<v William Gill>uh biggest plot twist ever this is my favorite one of my favorite scenes in the movie um i think you could probably explain it better than i can but this whole time it's like in his big big office

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<v William Gill>and the camera starts spinning around mr roilton when he just flips he's like okay you blithering idiots you're going to listen to me and at the end of this if you have any like inkling of sense in you're

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<v William Gill>going to sign this paper and you're going to admit that everything I say is true.

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<v William Gill>And he starts talking.

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<v William Gill>He's like, I'm going to give you another history lesson because he talked before then about how the Grand Prix is all rigged.

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<v William Gill>But this history lesson is going to happen.

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<v William Gill>And he starts like describing what's going to happen to Speed Racer after this point.

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<v Adam Estock>And as he starts describing this, we actually see it happen.

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<v Adam Estock>This is something that's very interestingly done.

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<v Adam Estock>Speed Racer plays a lot with time.

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<v Adam Estock>In the beginning scene, we see the flashbacks as he's racing.

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<v Adam Estock>in this scene it's as Mr.

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<v Adam Estock>Royalton's saying the things they start happening in reality which is a little bit disorienting if you're watching it for the first time but later it's like oh I'm glad we didn't have him say all the things and then

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<v Adam Estock>have all the things happen that would have made the it would have ruined the pacing of this movie so he's like you're gonna lose terribly in Fuji yeah he's in Fuji you're gonna lose terribly in Fuji you're

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<v William Gill>not even gonna finish the race

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<v Adam Estock>everyone's gonna everyone's gonna bump you around and you get thrashed around by the other racers because they'll play dirty and he does and then your family's gonna get hit with a lawsuit and even if it's not true your

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<v Adam Estock>family's gonna name is gonna be tainted you're like oh now racer and just now racer motors whatever their yeah name is they're gonna be uh publicly shamed and defamed and it's gonna be horrible

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<v William Gill>yeah and we're watching we're watching all of this happen and then he's still ranting and then the camera's like spinning around him as um as it fades into these flash forwards and then it flashes back and speed is

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<v William Gill>looking at him and he picks up his his bag and everything and he leaves yeah he doesn't accept the deal and

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<v Adam Estock>so all of this happens and it's very tragic now there's a shift after that because speed racer feels very disheartened after he's like oh turns out that the big businesses can just do whatever they want and And the

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<v Adam Estock>Grand Prix is fixed, and it's all terrible.

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<v Adam Estock>And I guess before we should transition, we should talk about his talk with his mom.

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<v Adam Estock>I love this scene.

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<v Adam Estock>Okay, so his mom gives him a peck talk, and she says, like, speed, this isn't all about winning.

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<v Adam Estock>Like, I'm worried, but she compares him to an artist.

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<v Adam Estock>She says, like, I go to the races to watch you make art.

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<v Adam Estock>It's sort of like you love to watch, like, a painter paint, or you love to watch an actor act on screen.

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<v Adam Estock>And Speed Racer, his racing, he's so passionate about it and he's so intricate and wonderful with it that it's like art watching him race.

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<v Adam Estock>And that was a very, oh, it's just such a good monologue.

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<v Adam Estock>It's such a good speech.

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<v William Gill>It's such a good mother talk as well.

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<v William Gill>It hits home so hard.

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<v Adam Estock>And that's sort of like, that's hinting on the themes of the movie where it's not all about racing.

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<v Adam Estock>sometimes it's about the friends we made along the way you know like yeah it's very much like the the spirit of racing and just pushing yourself to be the best you you can be is more important than winning

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<v Adam Estock>the race itself

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<v William Gill>and it's also really cool because that's one of the themes that i love about this movie is it's not just about racing but it's about family like speed his most important thing is his family actually then it's racing

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<v William Gill>yeah but the thing that you it's like easy to see someone's drive to be a good racer, it's not as easy to show how much you love your family.

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<v William Gill>So it comes out in these different scenes throughout the movie.

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<v William Gill>I love it.

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<v Adam Estock>And speaking of family, he's about to betray his family.

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<v Adam Estock>Because if you thought this movie was pretty cookie cutter, pretty straightforward, you have no idea what's about to happen.

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<v Adam Estock>Because there's a subplot with the harbinger of boom, Racer X, and also what, Taijo

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<v William Gill>Shogokan. You said, wait, Racer X?

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<v Adam Estock>Racer X? No, no, it's X.

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<v Adam Estock>Racer X, not not race racer racer no it's it's racer oh is it yeah oh crap so there's his remember i think you're getting confused because there's a different character named rex racer rex racer that's his older brother

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<v Adam Estock>who died and his body wasn't found this is not that this is a completely different guy named racer x racer x um and they they uh they're not racer x he has a he has a mask on so

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<v Adam Estock>you can't see his face but we

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<v William Gill>don't know like batman we don't know who

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<v Adam Estock>he is we're like we have no idea he could be anyone

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<v William Gill>so this person racer x appears

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<v Adam Estock>it's like a racer mixed with like this um i guess he's like a action hero because he there was an earlier scene he's

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<v William Gill>kind of like batman he's like a vigilante he's

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<v Adam Estock>a vigilante he he's trying to fight all the big racers yeah

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<v William Gill>like oh yeah for example the way he's introduced so like early in the movie it just randomly cuts to a scene where is a bunch of mob guys interrogating this Asian-looking guy.

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<v William Gill>And this is one of my favorite parts about the movie is their portrayal of Asians.

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<v Adam Estock>Oh, no, that's not a good part of the movie.

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<v Adam Estock>They're very bad. Their poor way of portraying Asians.

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<v Adam Estock>They're like, this guy is a little...

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<v Adam Estock>He's going to be our Asian guy. Is he...

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<v William Gill>Is he Japanese? Yeah.

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<v William Gill>Is he Korean?

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<v Adam Estock>So he's played by a Korean actor, but his sister, canonically in the movie, is played by a Chinese actor.

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<v Adam Estock>And then his...

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<v William Gill>His dad is Japanese.

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<v William Gill>His dad is...

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<v Adam Estock>Is a Japanese actor.

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<v Adam Estock>I think he's played by a Japanese actor.

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<v Adam Estock>and the movie is very vague about like which Asian he is and they're like, well, he's going to be one of them.

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<v William Gill>Because their name just sounds like it could be any of them.

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<v William Gill>The name of the family.

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<v William Gill>But anyway, so this Asian guy is being interrogated by a bunch of mob guys and it's in like this really fancy room.

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<v William Gill>And they're like, well, if you're not going to like win, oh, like lose the race for us, we're going to have to take some payment.

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<v Adam Estock>We're going to put your hand in this piranha tank.

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<v William Gill>Yeah, we're going to put your hand in this fish tank.

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<v William Gill>But it's not fish, it's piranhas.

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<v William Gill>And they show like a bone being like, or a big old chunk of meat being devoured by piranhas in seconds.

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<v William Gill>I'm like, oh no.

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<v William Gill>So they're about to put his hands in.

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<v William Gill>And all of a sudden there's like, alarms start playing.

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<v William Gill>And then it cuts to this lady who's driving a van or a semi-truck, as you guys call it.

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<v William Gill>And it's like, what?

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<v William Gill>And then it cuts.

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<v William Gill>And it turns out they're actually in the back of a semi-truck.

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<v William Gill>It's just decorated to look super fancy.

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<v William Gill>And there's a race car behind them.

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<v William Gill>Who is it? Who could it possibly be?

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<v William Gill>Adam, who do you think it is?

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<v William Gill>It's Racer X. Racer X.

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<v William Gill>The Harbinger of Boom.

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<v William Gill>As he is well known.

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<v Adam Estock>Which is, I think, the best nickname you can have.

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<v Adam Estock>It's pretty creative. There's a lot of great nicknames throughout fiction, but the Harbinger of Boom could definitely stand among the other greats.

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<v Adam Estock>It's one of the top ones.

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<v Adam Estock>Maybe it's not your favorite.

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<v Adam Estock>I guess your favorite is the guy he's working for in the CIA.

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<v Adam Estock>Not the CIA, but the CIB.

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<v Adam Estock>And that is Inspector Detector.

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<v Adam Estock>My favorite character. Which is his real name, I believe.

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<v William Gill>Yeah, his real name is Inspector Detector.

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<v William Gill>So Inspector Detector, let's flash forward in time.

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<v William Gill>So after mom has this conversation, mom racer, with Speed Racer, they get a knock on the doll, and it's the harbinger of boom.

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<v William Gill>So Sprysle freaks out and inspect the detect, and they come in, and they have a request to make of the racer family.

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<v Adam Estock>Yes. Taijo Tokokan, who is the vaguely Asian racer, is like being threatened.

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<v Adam Estock>He has evidence on this racer fixer, this mob boss named Cruncher Block.

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<v Adam Estock>Great names. This movie is just so good with names.

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<v Adam Estock>I'll just say. It is pretty memorable.

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<v Adam Estock>And Taijo Togakhan is like, I will give the information to the CIB if you join me in this rally race, this cross-country race.

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<v Adam Estock>Super dangerous. But it's a three-player.

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<v Adam Estock>It's a team race.

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<v Adam Estock>So you have to race with a team.

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<v Adam Estock>And Taijo is like, I want Racer X and I want Speed Racer.

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<v Adam Estock>The greatest racer is basically in his mind.

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<v Adam Estock>The problem is that, what is special about this race course?

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<v William Gill>This is not just any race course.

00:29:37.080 --> 00:29:42.820
<v William Gill>It happens to be the exact same rally race where Racer Rex was tragically died.

00:29:43.760 --> 00:29:46.140
<v William Gill>Died. He was tragically died.

00:29:46.180 --> 00:29:47.400
<v William Gill>He was tragically died years ago.

00:29:47.540 --> 00:29:49.040
<v Adam Estock>He tragically died of exploding.

00:29:49.220 --> 00:29:50.520
<v William Gill>Of explosion and fire.

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<v William Gill>And so his dad, Pops Racer, is like, how dare you come here and ask this of us?

00:29:55.320 --> 00:30:03.080
<v William Gill>and inspector's like i'm sorry i understand the toll i must like be putting on your family i'm sorry and then he gets up and he's ready to leave and the family's like don't you ever like request something like

00:30:03.080 --> 00:30:06.580
<v William Gill>this of us again and they leave and speed is silent the whole time he doesn't

00:30:06.580 --> 00:30:20.500
<v Adam Estock>say anything and then speed racer talks to his girlfriend tricks afterward and he's like i i have to race this race like i have to prove to the world that big companies big businesses don't own everything i have

00:30:20.500 --> 00:30:27.280
<v Adam Estock>to prove that the little guy can win and we can show everything And so Speed Racer joins without his family's permission.

00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:32.140
<v Adam Estock>And he and Trix pretend that they're going skiing and they leave to go on this tour.

00:30:32.140 --> 00:30:34.920
<v Adam Estock>And that's when Trix becomes his pit crew.

00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:39.220
<v William Gill>And yeah. Yeah, so she's now the spots from the helicopter because it's a rally race.

00:30:39.420 --> 00:30:46.020
<v William Gill>And they're racing. And then Spreitle finds out that he, through a series of kind of funny interactions. Yeah.

00:30:46.180 --> 00:30:51.560
<v Adam Estock>He's watching TV and he's like, I want to secretly watch the race, this race.

00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:53.700
<v Adam Estock>But then he sees Speed Racer on the television.

00:30:53.700 --> 00:30:54.700
<v Adam Estock>He's like, oh no.

00:30:54.900 --> 00:31:07.540
<v Adam Estock>and then pop sees speed race on the television and it's like oh no like this is terrible so they show up to his race and like how dare you race without our permission but in the end he he

00:31:07.540 --> 00:31:09.540
<v Adam Estock>keeps racing it's like no i'm an adult i'm gonna race

00:31:09.540 --> 00:31:16.140
<v William Gill>yeah so we got some pretty epic scenes um one of my favorite scenes in the movie actually is the ninja scene the ninja

00:31:16.140 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Adam Estock>scene that ninja more like a ninja yeah exactly i

00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.180
<v William Gill>caught this movie's just full iconic quotes

00:31:22.180 --> 00:31:29.520
<v Adam Estock>crazy line live forever like why watching that tv it's in german well not the monkey parts because there's a monkey in the tv

00:31:30.600 --> 00:31:37.520
<v William Gill>great so in any case so the family all like meet up with speed and they confront him but then they decide actually they're all going to stick with him because speed's like i'm not backing down they're like well

00:31:37.520 --> 00:31:46.720
<v William Gill>we can't let you do this alone so they all stay in like this fancy hotel room but of course and they're with um racer x and what's your time taijo and then some ninjas come in and try and

00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:50.240
<v William Gill>attack them and the whole family is like this epic scene where the like spritle

00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:54.080
<v William Gill>the mechanic and then of course Pops who is like a pro

00:31:54.080 --> 00:32:07.380
<v Adam Estock>wrestler Pops is played by John Goodman and it plays up the fact that John Goodman is like this big huge mechanic beefy guy that like just tears through the ninja and he's like you beat that ninja so easily

00:32:07.380 --> 00:32:11.040
<v Adam Estock>ninja more like a non-jump terrible what passes for a ninja these days

00:32:12.100 --> 00:32:18.660
<v Adam Estock>so true so true the ninjas actually do affect the race because that's after the first leg is that night

00:32:19.780 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Adam Estock>and that night Taijo, he gets paralyzed by the ninja.

00:32:24.300 --> 00:32:30.900
<v Adam Estock>He gets paralyzed for just long enough for them to secretly switch out Taijo with Trix.

00:32:31.600 --> 00:32:33.540
<v Adam Estock>Wait, oh you're right yeah, sorry.

00:32:33.740 --> 00:32:44.840
<v Adam Estock>So Trix races on behalf of Taijo and that's actually a really cool scene and there's a lot of action in that scene and they do the switch back and there's a little bit of gunfight and they take out

00:32:44.840 --> 00:32:46.680
<v Adam Estock>Cruncher Block and his ninjas

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<v Adam Estock>and then they win the race congratulations there was a lot of crazy things Speed Racer gets thrown off a cliff at one point he's about to die he's like oh no just like my brother did but then he

00:33:01.180 --> 00:33:03.180
<v Adam Estock>spikes come out of his wheels

00:33:03.180 --> 00:33:05.300
<v William Gill>he uses the power of ridiculous engineering

00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.460
<v Adam Estock>it's crazy he falls into a ravine and

00:33:08.460 --> 00:33:09.960
<v William Gill>this ravine is endless spikes

00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:24.940
<v Adam Estock>come out of his wheels and so he starts doing this crazy like spike chain four-wheel drive like down still going down down the hill right side of the ravine and then he does the launching thing so the

00:33:24.940 --> 00:33:37.660
<v Adam Estock>springs launch him launch his car directly vertical up but because he's a ravine it just launches him to the other side of the ravine he hits it with his wheels and then starts driving up the other side of

00:33:37.660 --> 00:33:38.460
<v Adam Estock>the ravine and it's

00:33:38.460 --> 00:33:39.760
<v William Gill>like a literally straight

00:33:39.760 --> 00:33:41.160
<v Adam Estock>lands on the race course.

00:33:41.500 --> 00:33:43.660
<v Adam Estock>It's crazy. It's awesome to watch.

00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.980
<v Adam Estock>But it is really exhilarating to watch.

00:33:46.540 --> 00:33:50.380
<v William Gill>So this happens, they win the race, and then he qualifies.

00:33:50.840 --> 00:33:58.820
<v Adam Estock>Well, technically... There's one of the winners of the race gets like a pass to the Grand Prix, which is like the big tournament.

00:33:59.100 --> 00:34:00.100
<v Adam Estock>That's the one there is.

00:34:00.300 --> 00:34:02.480
<v Adam Estock>They say it's all fixed, but it's like amazing.

00:34:02.980 --> 00:34:07.380
<v Adam Estock>And Taijo, as the leader of the relay race, he gets the certificate.

00:34:07.380 --> 00:34:10.220
<v Adam Estock>but then the betrayal so

00:34:10.220 --> 00:34:15.500
<v William Gill>they were racing for this tai joe family and it turns out that mr tai joe his dad

00:34:15.500 --> 00:34:16.880
<v Adam Estock>mr togur con mr

00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:26.200
<v William Gill>togur con my bad you're fine he actually betrays them on uses this like exactly as mr alton said earlier it's all about stocks and like when you win a race then stock prices go up and down so he

00:34:26.200 --> 00:34:32.900
<v William Gill>he sells a bunch of stock to mr walton and it was all just part of corruption so speed and his family are livid they're not happy that they got done dirty

00:34:32.900 --> 00:34:34.320
<v Adam Estock>and And Speed is so angry.

00:34:34.500 --> 00:34:35.360
<v Adam Estock>He's driving on the race course.

00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.460
<v Adam Estock>He's like, nothing matters anymore.

00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:42.500
<v Adam Estock>This is terrible. And then he gets a pep talk from Racer X.

00:34:42.780 --> 00:34:50.040
<v Adam Estock>Speed's like, Racer X, I know this is crazy, but I think you're my brother, Rex Racer.

00:34:50.520 --> 00:34:54.760
<v Adam Estock>Do you think that Racer X is Rex Racer?

00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Adam Estock>Could it be?

00:34:57.040 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Adam Estock>No, it's not. He pulls off his mask.

00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:00.000
<v Adam Estock>It's just a guy.

00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.080
<v Adam Estock>It's just some random other dude.

00:35:01.080 --> 00:35:03.260
<v Adam Estock>Just some guy who's like, yeah, I'm not your brother.

00:35:03.640 --> 00:35:08.180
<v Adam Estock>But like, race is good and keep racing.

00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:09.820
<v William Gill>Don't get dishawn, boy.

00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.460
<v William Gill>Yeah. And then it turns out that...

00:35:12.460 --> 00:35:13.060
<v William Gill>Oh, what is...

00:35:13.060 --> 00:35:14.300
<v Adam Estock>He says this crazy line.

00:35:14.500 --> 00:35:15.980
<v Adam Estock>Let me see if I can find it.

00:35:16.020 --> 00:35:17.340
<v Adam Estock>I wrote down some notes for this.

00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:20.120
<v Adam Estock>Racer X, what does it say?

00:35:20.220 --> 00:35:22.200
<v Adam Estock>You can continue the plot while I'm looking for this line.

00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.500
<v William Gill>Well, okay. So basically, Mr.

00:35:24.980 --> 00:35:29.220
<v William Gill>Tokugan, or Taijo's sister, feels pity for speed.

00:35:29.220 --> 00:35:33.200
<v William Gill>And so she gives him the certificate or like the entry to the Grand Prix.

00:35:33.340 --> 00:35:34.840
<v William Gill>Cause she's like, he wasn't going to go to it anyways.

00:35:35.080 --> 00:35:36.960
<v William Gill>And Speed Racer was like, this is it.

00:35:37.020 --> 00:35:41.000
<v William Gill>Like if I can win the Grand Prix, then I can prove that, you know, the little guys can win.

00:35:41.140 --> 00:35:43.100
<v William Gill>And that's, that's like the climax of the movie.

00:35:43.240 --> 00:35:47.100
<v Adam Estock>The line is you don't climb into a T180 to be a driver.

00:35:47.420 --> 00:35:49.300
<v Adam Estock>You do it because you're driven.

00:35:50.740 --> 00:35:54.960
<v Adam Estock>And yes. So he gets into the race and everyone's so surprised.

00:35:55.200 --> 00:35:58.360
<v Adam Estock>Mr. Royalton's like, no, this is terrible.

00:35:58.780 --> 00:36:00.220
<v Adam Estock>in his British voice.

00:36:00.780 --> 00:36:04.740
<v Adam Estock>By the way, every character who's British in this movie is a bad guy.

00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.520
<v Adam Estock>Like, canonically. Which is like most movies, I feel like.

00:36:07.520 --> 00:36:09.960
<v Adam Estock>How did you feel about that, being British yourself?

00:36:09.980 --> 00:36:12.900
<v William Gill>Well, the fact that the villains in this movie were so cool, I accepted.

00:36:13.120 --> 00:36:14.200
<v Adam Estock>Oh, I don't know if they were cool.

00:36:14.340 --> 00:36:14.720
<v Adam Estock>I think Mr.

00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:15.320
<v William Gill>Royalton's kind of a good one.

00:36:15.340 --> 00:36:17.120
<v William Gill>When I say cool, I mean they have iconic lines.

00:36:17.340 --> 00:36:18.020
<v William Gill>Okay, that's fair.

00:36:19.080 --> 00:36:23.900
<v Adam Estock>So Mr. Royalton's like, a million dollars and whoever kills Speed Racer stops

00:36:23.900 --> 00:36:26.260
<v William Gill>him from finishing the line.

00:36:26.300 --> 00:36:30.900
<v Adam Estock>And so this crazy, it's not a race, It's a showdown and they're fighting, they're fighting.

00:36:31.780 --> 00:36:36.220
<v Adam Estock>And then it's just, it's Speed versus Cannonball Taylor, the favorite to win the race.

00:36:36.220 --> 00:36:38.100
<v Adam Estock>And who's won a lot of races in the past.

00:36:38.240 --> 00:36:39.700
<v Adam Estock>Who's won a lot of Grand Prix's in the past.

00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:42.980
<v Adam Estock>Cannonball Taylor does this illegal cheating method because Mr.

00:36:43.040 --> 00:36:44.100
<v Adam Estock>Royalton forces him to.

00:36:44.340 --> 00:36:48.680
<v Adam Estock>And then Speed Racer does a launch up, shows the bottom of their cars.

00:36:48.740 --> 00:36:52.980
<v William Gill>Yeah, so it's called a spear hook where basically like you spear onto the car next to you and join them together.

00:36:53.120 --> 00:36:54.880
<v William Gill>It's a super illegal move, but it's underneath the car.

00:36:54.940 --> 00:36:55.820
<v William Gill>So you can't really detect it.

00:36:55.820 --> 00:36:59.500
<v William Gill>and then speed racer finds out how to like show everyone that he's cheating

00:36:59.500 --> 00:37:13.440
<v Adam Estock>and so they're like this is going to cost him his medals in the past yeah there's this crazy finale it's neck and neck and finally this honestly i say i've said a lot to describe this finish this is

00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Adam Estock>electrifying like it legitimately like everything builds up there's you start speed racer starts driving faster and faster toward the finish like nothing can stop him and as he's doing it you hear all these voices from before the movie

00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:42.920
<v Adam Estock>where his mom is giving him pep talk his dad is giving him pep talk racer x's like everyone is cheering him on and he finishes and the finish goes into this like this spiraling animation and he finishes and

00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:48.820
<v Adam Estock>there's just silence for a second and then the audience roar shows up and it's...

00:37:48.820 --> 00:37:53.300
<v William Gill>You see the sweat dripping off his face as everyone rushes to jump on his car and lift him up.

00:37:53.460 --> 00:37:54.620
<v Adam Estock>Oh, it's a beautiful finish.

00:37:54.900 --> 00:37:58.280
<v Adam Estock>Amazing. Then at the end, Royalton is indicted.

00:37:58.640 --> 00:38:04.580
<v Adam Estock>Maximum sentence. He goes to prison for life because, quote, the newspaper's called cheaters never prosper.

00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:06.340
<v Adam Estock>So it's like, yeah, he cheated on the race.

00:38:06.540 --> 00:38:08.780
<v Adam Estock>So we're going to send him to prison for life.

00:38:08.980 --> 00:38:11.280
<v Adam Estock>Which is, honestly, for this movie, that's fair.

00:38:11.380 --> 00:38:12.580
<v Adam Estock>Like, that's the worst thing you can do.

00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.620
<v Adam Estock>And that's the movie Speed Racer. Yep.

00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:26.980
<v William Gill>there's there's a lot extra which you need to watch the movie to experience yourself the one thing that we cannot do justice over a podcast because obviously it's audio form is just the visuals the visuals of this movie

00:38:26.980 --> 00:38:34.220
<v William Gill>so good stunning absolutely fantastic there is no other movie like it even remotely i cannot think of anything i yeah honestly it genuinely is so unique

00:38:34.220 --> 00:38:40.780
<v Adam Estock>it's live action it almost feels like there's like animated visuals in it a little bit but it is really good it's

00:38:40.780 --> 00:38:48.400
<v William Gill>just like the rotoscoping in it is like they don't even try to hide it it's not like the sort movie where they try to like hide the fact no editing stuff like they use it

00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:57.980
<v Adam Estock>yeah it's very like the first time i watched i was a little bit jarred because so obviously green screen yeah there's so much green screen and it's very obvious that it's green screen the second time i realized oh

00:38:57.980 --> 00:38:58.940
<v Adam Estock>that's like it's intentional

00:38:58.940 --> 00:39:00.880
<v William Gill>it's like the charm they're it's

00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:07.260
<v Adam Estock>they're they're not based in a world of reality like this is a world where racing is like everything you know

00:39:07.260 --> 00:39:17.060
<v William Gill>and the choice of colors as well are just fabulous like that's why i don't think you physically can watch this movie and be sad or just like at the same like level of emotion as you were before going

00:39:17.060 --> 00:39:25.880
<v William Gill>into it it just lifts whatever emotion you were feeling because everything is so over the top the colors the music the the voice lines the names this is the movie to watch if you're having a bad day or

00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:26.700
<v William Gill>if you just want to feel better

00:39:26.700 --> 00:39:39.060
<v Adam Estock>exactly um so final thoughts i guess it's surprising how few people have seen this movie i hadn't even heard of it i guess it's i've heard more and more like Maybe it's the,

00:39:39.080 --> 00:39:48.080
<v Adam Estock>what, is it Bader-Meinhof, where it's like you hear something and then you hear it, hear something once for the first time, and then you suddenly start hearing it everywhere.

00:39:48.460 --> 00:39:49.840
<v Adam Estock>That's sort of how this was.

00:39:50.040 --> 00:39:53.140
<v Adam Estock>I don't know if that's how it really is.

00:39:53.300 --> 00:39:58.180
<v Adam Estock>Maybe it really is coming more in, but I hear more people talking about Speed Racer nowadays.

00:39:58.460 --> 00:40:01.180
<v William Gill>It kind of gained a new, in the public eye,

00:40:02.260 --> 00:40:07.820
<v William Gill>it just appeared out of nowhere, and then everyone started TikTok and everything, people posting about some of the scenes and dissecting it.

00:40:07.820 --> 00:40:12.360
<v Adam Estock>This random podcast about Speed Racer will become the most trending podcast.

00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:14.360
<v William Gill>I hope so. Well, that's not why we're talking about it.

00:40:14.740 --> 00:40:18.180
<v William Gill>We've been planning this for literally two years before anyone started talking about Speed Racer.

00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:19.280
<v William Gill>It's always been my favorite movie.

00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:20.020
<v William Gill>Of course, we liked it.

00:40:20.460 --> 00:40:22.820
<v Adam Estock>Well, William liked it before it was cool.

00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:24.760
<v William Gill>I liked it since I was five years old.

00:40:25.040 --> 00:40:26.680
<v William Gill>I liked it since two weeks ago.

00:40:28.420 --> 00:40:30.600
<v William Gill>But yeah, this movie is absolutely fantastic.

00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.040
<v William Gill>You need to watch it.

00:40:32.100 --> 00:40:33.080
<v William Gill>Go ahead and rent it.

00:40:33.180 --> 00:40:35.780
<v Adam Estock>Let's give our final review for Speed Racer.

00:40:36.580 --> 00:40:39.580
<v Adam Estock>William, how many speed racers would you give this out of 10?

00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.760
<v William Gill>This movie actually genuinely gets four speed racers out of 10.

00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:44.280
<v Adam Estock>Four speed racers out of 10.

00:40:44.660 --> 00:40:48.220
<v Adam Estock>That's so high. That's maybe the highest that any movie has ever gotten.

00:40:48.240 --> 00:40:51.400
<v William Gill>I believe so. That's why I'm like, well, my heart's racing.

00:40:51.700 --> 00:40:54.940
<v Adam Estock>And you think audience, you think, oh, four speed racers out of 10.

00:40:55.060 --> 00:40:56.180
<v Adam Estock>Like what, that's four to 10.

00:40:56.420 --> 00:40:58.340
<v William Gill>No, the rating goes up to three. Yeah.

00:40:59.560 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Adam Estock>So, so one speed racer out of 10 is worth three normal out of 10.

00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:12.460
<v Adam Estock>so four speed racers out of 10 is actually a 12 out of 10 in normal ratings that's insane yeah

00:41:12.460 --> 00:41:14.020
<v William Gill>it's a highly rated movie please

00:41:14.020 --> 00:41:18.100
<v Adam Estock>watch it i think personally i will give this probably

00:41:19.160 --> 00:41:30.480
<v Adam Estock>two and a half speed racers out of 10 all right i liked it i don't think i'm as high as you i don't have the nostalgia factor i think it's a really good movie that's uh for for listeners

00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:35.840
<v Adam Estock>who don't who don't use speed race or conversion in their day-to-day life, that's like an eight out of 10.

00:41:36.120 --> 00:41:37.040
<v Adam Estock>I would say it's pretty good.

00:41:37.420 --> 00:41:40.060
<v Adam Estock>I think I give it a six out of 10 the first time I watched it.

00:41:40.080 --> 00:41:42.160
<v Adam Estock>I was like, it's good, but something's holding it back.

00:41:42.420 --> 00:41:44.500
<v Adam Estock>I think it's just an eight out of 10 because it really...

00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.520
<v Adam Estock>The more you watch the movie, the more the movie just pulls you in.

00:41:49.560 --> 00:41:50.620
<v Adam Estock>It's very immersive.

00:41:51.540 --> 00:41:53.500
<v Adam Estock>It brings you into the world with it.

00:41:53.640 --> 00:41:55.840
<v Adam Estock>And so I love that world. It's great.

00:41:56.020 --> 00:41:57.000
<v William Gill>It's a fantastic world.

00:41:57.140 --> 00:41:58.020
<v William Gill>I wish it was this world.

00:41:58.340 --> 00:41:59.720
<v Adam Estock>Well, we're about out of time.

00:41:59.720 --> 00:42:04.000
<v Adam Estock>We're going to stick to our 30 to 40 minute block as we said we would.

00:42:05.520 --> 00:42:07.880
<v Adam Estock>But, well, thank you everyone for listening to this episode.

00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:08.700
<v Adam Estock>I hope this was enjoyable.

00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:10.900
<v William Gill>I hope that you have been inspired to watch Speed Racer.

00:42:11.220 --> 00:42:11.560
<v Adam Estock>I hope so too.

00:42:11.560 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Adam Estock>And I hope that everyone will go and watch Speed Racer and they will be inspired to race themselves.

00:42:20.160 --> 00:42:22.440
<v Adam Estock>But next episode, we don't know what we'll talk about.

00:42:22.580 --> 00:42:23.820
<v Adam Estock>We might talk about Interstellar.

00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:24.980
<v Adam Estock>We might talk about a different movie.

00:42:25.120 --> 00:42:26.500
<v Adam Estock>We'll see. Tron Legacy is what I'm thinking.

00:42:27.020 --> 00:42:30.100
<v Adam Estock>But we'll finish off with an interesting or enlightening question.

00:42:30.220 --> 00:42:32.600
<v Adam Estock>We want to start doing that at the end of our episodes.

00:42:33.020 --> 00:42:40.240
<v Adam Estock>So your interesting or enlightening question for today is, what is your favorite fictional movie car?

00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:43.180
<v Adam Estock>You can also choose a TV show if you want to do like Night Raider or something.

00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.220
<v Adam Estock>But like, what's your favorite fictional car?

00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Adam Estock>But we'll finish that off.

00:42:47.560 --> 00:42:50.680
<v Adam Estock>Remember, we live our lives.

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<v Adam Estock>We have a great time.

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<v Adam Estock>Thank you for watching this podcast.

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<v Adam Estock>Or thank you for listening to this podcast.

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<v Adam Estock>I remember we may not think alike, but we can always sync alike.

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<v Adam Estock>We'll see you next episode.

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<v Adam Estock>Have a great day
